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Scientific versus Religious language

Posted by on Tuesday, August 19, 2014 Under: Logic First - Emotion Third

       Scientific versus religious language

Author: Mohammed Nazari


For the longest time I was wondering why people have different understandings when it comes to  religion, but exactly the opposite when it comes to science.

The difference in understandings of the religion is to the extent that even at times followers of the same or different religions kill each other, while all religions promote peace and love.

In religion as individuals rise in the hierarchy get to have more differences on the understanding of the principles, while exactly the opposite applies when it comes to the science, the more scientific the individuals the more agreement on understandings of the principles.

Then I realized the main reason is that, in science we speak very clearly leaving no room for any interpretations. For example when two medical professionals explain in detail e.g. saying, a 3 mm saggital tear in the posterior horn of right medial meniscus. It is so clear that there is almost no need to even see any pictures.

As well in science or legal system, we are supposed to take one's word for their face value and then prove it true or false based on the evidence. why is it practice differently when it comes to religion and the words of God.


While in religion exactly the opposite applies. Often in religious schools students are encouraged to "interpret" the meaning versus "take it for face value".

Interpreting the meaning of the words is widely practiced in the Persian literature as well, mainly poetry. For example the meaning for Wine, Love and beautiful women, is not as we understand them and means more philosophical and wholly, with no one clear meaning. As a matter of fact different teachers will explain them differently, confusing the hell of the logical thinkers. I know the same is practiced in Judaism in the most aggressive way than any other religious teaching that I know of.  Where the students are encouraged to interpret the same sentence in multiple different ways, like in "Talmud ways of interpretations".

Science teachers believe in "well defined definition" while religion teachers promote "interpretation" which leads to confusion and lack of clarity.

Science teachers use multiple words to explain one defined meaning, while religion teachers use one defined word to explain multiple meanings (upside down funnel).

Scientific teachers "simplify complicated things" while religion teachers "complicate simple things".

In Iran one of the religious leaders, Ayatollah Dastgheib, converted a simple and clear verse which means "In the name of God the merciful, the forgiving" to a very complicated subject, writing a big book on it.

Acting humble, Ayatollah Dastgheib, said yet the meaning was vaster than what he had written in his book and that his knowledge did not suffice to discover all the meaning of such a "deep" verse. As if the more depth and confusion to a word is of more value.

Ayatollah Tabatabaei another well known religious leader has interpreted Quran in 44 or so book volumes, each book almost the same size as the original Quran (central religious book of Islam, like the bible for Christians).

Often religious leaders, like some politicians, find complexity as a good thing and in order to make something important, they make it more complicated, exactly the opposite of what we do in science, where we try to simplify things so that it is understandable by all.

Complexity does not equal importance, and rather leads to confusion, mess and disorder

In another word, Ayatollah Dastgheib and Tabatabaei believed differently than Einstein. Einstein says: "If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough", promoting "Simplifying complicated subjects", while Ayatollah Dastgheib and Tabatabaei promote "Complicating simple subjects" and making them rather "mysterious and illusive".

Although there is a well documented book for some religions such as Islam, Judaism and Christianity, the meaning of the words of God are not taken for their face value and rather interpreted by the human.

Can human speak more clearly than God? Did God need human's help to make his point clear enough?

Most likely some of the religion teachers and religious teachers will have some answer for the above question. After all they have an answer for everything, and very frequently in the fields that they have no expertise or knowledge in.

Someone said, "the key to success is: 10% competence, 10% Confidence, 80% Clarity". I believe in the concept, not so sure about the exact percentage though:)

Why in religion confusion, mystery and illusion is encouraged? Does this have something to do with the religious leaders versus the religion itself? Like some politicians or bosses that in order to create importance for themselves, make things rather complicated. Making you feel sorry for asking a question.

There are more than 1000 different religions in the world and growing, the chances of you having the wrong one is 99.9%,

Assuming one of these religions is the correct one, otherwise oops, you have all got it wrong:)


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A Personal Journey (Speech)

Author: Mohammed Nazari

Please find the link to the YouTube videos below

Part 1: https://youtu.be/A4BzmJ7jwOg

                               Part 2: https://youtu.be/JufeK2G-U8E

  •  It is amazing, when you have a big "goal" in mind, most other big "problems" look like small "challenges"       
  • Education in Canada is more practical than in the east which is more theoretical. After all you can find the theory in books or online, without needing to go to school.

Reasons for my failure as an employee:

1. Higher Canadian standards and sensitivity level  

2. My defensive behavior    

  •  Blaming  your behavior or action does not mean blaming you as a person
  • One for all, All for one

3. Inability to be honest with my own feelings  

  • Pride that has no basis, doesn't allow you to be honest.

4.  Canadian are too polite to be honest   

  •  If you don't have anything nice to say then don't say anything
  • Read between the lines

 Resolution:

  •  Knowledge of higher/different Canadian standards and simply following versus questioning them
  •  Longer orientation
  •  Welcoming comments and asking for further explanation versus defending our self
  • Being honest with our feelings and abilities:

o   Acknowledging your weakness is a sign of honesty and makes you stronger.

  • Asking versus commenting:

o   Don't assume, ask question

o   Don't comment, ask question

o   Don't judge, ask question

o   When in doubt, ask question

o   When you think you know, ask questions to clarify

o Comments are not welcome, questions are

ยท         What kind of question?

1. Open ended and unbiased questions

2. Yes-No questions to clarify

When you have a car problem whom you ask for help? your Doctor, mother or mechanic.

Although this question seems silly, we make this mistake all the time, asking a professional question from people outside of that profession and building opinions.

  • Ask questions from the right person(s). The ones with proven success.

 

You will learn more from the successful people who can show you how to succeed.

Unsuccessful people can show you how not to fail the way they did.

 While the pathways to success are few, there are multiple pathways to fail.

Which one is easier and more effective to learn?

 Uncle Google and my cousin YouTube can help you with any questions.

Starting my own business

  •  In order to have a good society/business, good structure is more important than good people.
  •  The main sources of work/interpersonal problems are: communication and expectations.
  •  Interpersonal skills are not just talking nicely but much more importantly is to follow a structure and    framework, even if it is not the best structure.
  • Having a poor structure is better than having no structure

I would I would recommend that you ask my uncle and cousin, Google and YouTube, about the following:

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  • Active listening
  •  Critical thinking
  • Yes-No question
  • Open ended question
  • how to be honest with oneself

 

After all My success and happiness depends on your success and happiness.

Let us make life better for all of us.